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Monday, March 30, 2009

Love The Absolute

There are some things we can not define.
God, good, evil, love, hate, harmony, beauty, time are a few that pop in my mind right now.
They are absolutes.
I know, I know, we all know what they are because we have all experienced them but can we define them, can we capture their full meaning in one word or a definition?

Love is so big, so immense, infinite I should say, so complex, so nuanced, so magical, irrational, and beautiful that for thousand of years artists have tried to capture it in words, music or images, for thousand of years philosophers and sage man have tried to find its meaning and we still have even scratched the surface of the subject matter.

To define love I do not have the words, but rather I would like to use a metaphor.

Life is an ocean and out of that infinite ocean our egos rise like waves.
We rise out the ocean of consciousness and look around.
We see the other waves rising from the ocean and going back into the ocean but the ego tells us a different story:
- I am – says the ego - not a creation of the ocean but a creation of my own.
And for a brief moment we call life we forget that we are the ocean.
We don’t see the illusion of our permanence and separation; we think we’ll live forever.
( or disappear into nothing - when you start getting older :)

But although fragmented, we are never separated.
There is always a under current beneath the wavy surface.
There is always an indefinable connection we can feel.
There are those moments when you can feel the ocean lifting you up or you can feel your ego flowing back into the ocean.
But then we get scared and pull away.
- I am – says the ego - not a creation of the ocean but a creation of my own.

There is nothing more powerful of a proof of that connection than love.
When two waves get closer to another, when soul and body melt into a one.
When you can feel that your body is just an extension of another body
When you can feel your soul is an extension of another soul.
( Can you imagine how it would feel to feel your body being the extension of everybody, how it will feel to feel your soul flowing back into the ocean?)
But that would be the death of the ego and the ego gets scared of death and runs away.
- I am - says the ego - not a creation of the ocean but a creation of my own.

All human interaction is love.
Right now you are reading my post. It is a very high level connection.
From the top of my wave to the top of your wave.
There is very little love flowing between us right now. It is mostly information we are exchanging.

Then we would have the romantic love.
Starting with friendships – where there is an undercurrent flowing, where you open up to give and receive love.
Then there is the total absolute, crazy love, were the gates are large open – even if for a while – where the whole world transforms in front of your eyes – love is instant enlightenment!

But love doesn’t have to be romantic to go that deep.
You can love your children, your parents, yourself.
What you have to understand is that the depth of your love is the depth of all your love.
In other wards a person that doesn’t love himself can not love another and a person that doesn’t love another can not love himself.
If you reach a depth of love you love the whole world at that depth.

Here is my problem, of letting go of my ego.
Here is my problem of not being able to become a Christian or a Buddha.
My love doesn’t go deep enough.
I know I should love my enemy, I know that I should love what I hate.
I know that my love should be unconditional but I can’t do it.

There is a point where my love stops. There is some evil I still hate.
Somebody like Hitler.
I can see he’s God’s creation just like me and you.
I can see how he chose evil over good.
I can see how evil corrupted and devoured his soul.
I can see how that was his downfall.
But I can’t forgive him.
I can only pity someone like that.

That pity is the separation between me and God
I know that, but I can’t let go.
I’m well, too human.
(Which is scary because it means I am still a little bit like Hitler)

- I am – says the ego - not a creation of the ocean but a creation of my own.

22 comments:

Aggie said...

I think as fallible humans we still only see love partially at this stage of our development. Hitler's choices may have stemmed from his parent's prejudices combined with being gassed - for he surely was mad as well as bad. And what of the dillusional people who put him in power. Humans and their egos can blind us to love. We have yet to evolve unto true/perfect full sighted love. We only know of it through demonstration as it stands - so we must all demonstrate it as much as we can.

mickael said...

we can what we can.

chase for 'deep love', 'true self' and 'enlightenment' brings no fruit for it is a larger circle every human runs.

do it. or do not. thinking about it only strengthens the illusion.

good luck.
mickael

Brigit said...

Maybe I'm really lacking in my growth here, but I don't want feel love for someone like Hitler. As much as I am only a small part of what makes the whole, I am still an individual part. Just like each leaf is part of a tree. Is it my ego that creates that awareness also? If it is, and if it is my ego that keeps me from loving someone like Hitler, I'm not ready to let that ego go.

Chatty Crone said...

"There are some things we can not define. God, good, evil, love, hate, harmony, beauty, time are a few that pop in my mind right now."

Think about this - not only can't you define them, but you can't see them yet everyone knows they exist!

Hitler, I hate him too. That makes me human. I think God 'did' too. That is why he is God. He has something we don't when it comes to forgiveness.

It is one thing forgiving and another thing forgetting. I agree Hitler had to be crazy. I don't have all the answers either Buddha.

Ted Bagley said...

It's delusion to believe there is something more than the illusion. "Delusions are inexhaustible, I vow to end them."

Talon said...

Emotions are very powerful - very visceral and very personal.

Buddha said...

@ Aggie – That is the way I feel too:
I’m just doing the best I can.

@ Mickael – Like you say:
I am that I am :)

@ Brigit – But a leaf is a part of the tree.
It can not exist without the other leafs, without the tree!

@ Chatty – We can’t forgive and forget; the history will repeat itself!

@ Ted – If everything is illusion then your illusion is as well just an illusion.
You can not have light without darkness, sound without silence, relative without absolute.

@ Talon – And very hard to control!

Sylvie said...

It's an interesting challenge you've posed to yourself, to love someone like Hitler - or at least not to hate him. Hating, no matter who you hate, only damages you, because no one else is in the least affected by your emotions.

OTOH, in loving Hitler (the ubiquitous example of the evil men can do) you don't love what he did, or forget what happened. You must also keep in mind he didn't act alone, there were/are any number of Hitlers in the world then and now.

In loving him you would wish a life for him in which he's a whole, beautiful, and loving person who behaves in tune with love, yes? You wish that he could experience peace, and bliss in his heart, as you might have it in yours.

I may have inhaled too much nirvana on this subject ;P

mickael said...

every buddha was there once. what are you?

good luck.
mickael

Ted Bagley said...

Light and darkness are both relatives.
Sound and silence are both relatives.
Compliments each depending on the other one. Both reflections of the absolute, no-light/no-darkness, no-sound/no-silence. A reflection is an illusion.

Christian Apologist said...

God is the source of all good, love, harmony, beauty, and time. If you want to increase any of these attributes in yourself you must seek Him. Ask and you will recieve generously.

Man is the source of evil, and hate. If you want more of these in your life look inside yourself and you shall find all you need and more.

Here is my problem, of letting go of my ego.
Here is my problem of not being able to become a Christian or a Buddha.
My love doesn’t go deep enough.
I know I should love my enemy, I know that I should love what I hate.
I know that my love should be unconditional but I can’t do it.


The whole point of christianity is that we cannot do it ourselves. We must believe in Christ Jesus for love. He made the ultimate example of it for us by his death on the cross, to pay the ransom for all who would accept it. You dont have to be the perfect example of love to be a christian. You merely have to recognize that you cant do it on your own and ask God for help.

Ted Bagley said...

According St. Paul I think the whole part of Christianity is the the savior everyone was waiting for was killed and now you have to change the world on your own! So step up!

Buddha said...

@ Sylvie – I know you are absolutely right.
Hate doesn’t hurt anybody but me.
But it is so damn hard not to hate some people :)

@ Mickael – I am that I am, Mickael.

@ Ted – so what is this “absolute” of which everything is a reflection of?

@ Christian – Stop pimping Jesus – if you say you love him.
Church and religion are evil – period!

mickael said...

those unwilling to walk, don't walk.

good luck.
mickael

Christian Apologist said...

@ Christian – Stop pimping Jesus – if you say you love him.
Church and religion are evil – period!


Very well. You say you are searching for the Truth and I have attempted to show it to you. If you choose to reject it that is your free choice. I will honor your request and not post here any longer.

Ted Bagley said...

THE NOTHING

Buddha said...

@ Mickael – Those unwilling to talk, don’t talk.

@ Christian – Do you love me?

@ Ted – The way I understand “illusion” is in the theatrical way.
There is a mask and under that there is an actor, or maybe layers of masks and then the actor.
But it has to be an actor.
It has to be a fundamental reality.
What you are saying – or at least what I am hearing – is that there is “nothing” and that is it.

Christian Apologist said...

Of course I do brother. I am very hopeful that you will find the truth.

Buddha said...

@ Christian
“I have put my truth in your innermost mind, and I have written it in your heart.
No longer does a man need to teach his brother about God.
For all you know Me, from the most ignorant to the most learned, from the poorest to the most powerful.”
So you see Christian, I have all the teaching, the truth and the preaching I need.
What the world needs is not more sermons and more religious debate, what the world needs is that we all live up to our teaching “love your enemy”
All I ask from you is your love.
If you can do that without judgment and prejudice, then I will call you my brother and welcome you in my house and my heart.

Christian Apologist said...

There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, as for me who am I that I should judge my brother.

Ted Bagley said...

Nothing gives all things their form and particular things are particular in the first place because they are named such and such (as being not nothing).
I'll try to use your words the best I can.
Under the mask there is no actor because the mask is the the actor. An actor is an actor only when he is acting. There is nothing underneath. As far as being an actor is concerned, no mask then no actor. No actor absolutely does not need a mask. An actor is dependent on one mask that is other than what he is not, an actor. In your analogy the nothing has become something and gives the impression of a split. No one, and one/not-one. The Real-the Imaginery-the Symbloic.
In theare all three positions intermingle. The greatest actors are such because they can become no one and play their characters with no hiderence.
I appreciate the inquiry.

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